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Genealogy or Bloodline
later called Telgar,
born c. 60 BL, geologist and (highly trained) mining engineer,
probably died c. 50 AL.
Andiyar occupied quarters C-8411 on the Yokohama.
He was of Indic ancestry, from a family with generations of gurus and
mahatmas. As a geologist and mining engineer he prospected on Earth
and First Centauri. He had reached his sixth decade at the time of
|1||Ram Da Andiyar (son), later called Ram Da Telgar, born 1.|
|2||Dena Andiyar (daughter), later called Dena Telgar, born c. 3.|
|3||Ben Andiyar (son), later called Ben Telgar, born c. 5.|
|4||Cara Andiyar (daughter), later called Cara Telgar, born 8.|
|First Interval/Second Pass|
|Descended from one of the children of Tarvi and Sallah:|
Lord Holder of Telgar Hold, born probably Telgar Hold during the First Interval (around
215), probably died early in the Second Interval.
Married: Salda of Telgar, Lady Holder of Telgar Hold, born possibly in Telgar during the First Interval (around 215), probably died early in the Second Interval.
is not completely sure if it is the Lord Holder or Lady Holder of
Telgar who is a direct descendant of one of Tarvi Telgar's children.
Since the name Salda resembles the name Sallah very much it is also
possible that both had (some) Telgar blood flowing through their veins. One
of them must be a direct descendant though, because in All
the Weyrs of Pern Aivas assures Larad that he is a direct
Tarvi and Sallah Telgar. To this I immediately have to add that
Aivas must have been guessing here (for once!). Because he
could not have known the exact family relationship, since input stopped
at 4 tenth-month 11, and he hadn’t yet scanned the Telgar Hold
records (assuming that the genealogy was in them) when he made this
statement; which is the main reason I have left open both lines of
|Sixth Pass/Sixth Interval|
Lord and Lady Holder(s) of Telgar from the Sixth Pass are unknown and not mentioned in Moreta or Nerilka's
|Second Long Interval (Eight Interval)/Ninth Pass|
|The creation of the first three generations of this section was necessary to have Petiron appear in the right place within the Telgar Bloodline; although the construction I have chosen is arbitrary and his Bloodline relation might be different than the one I have suggested. The "positions" within the genealogy of Petiron, his parents and grandparents, are based upon Petiron's Turn of birth, which I have deduced from several sources, and must have been around 2420.|
Lord Holder of Telgar Hold, probably born Telgar Hold c. 2350.
|Children (known) out of this marriage:|
|1||N.N. (son), born c. 2380, follows J-11.|
|2||Possibly N.N. (son or daughter), born c. 2390, follows J-12.|
Lord Holder of Telgar Hold, probably born Telgar Hold c. 2380.
|Children (known) out of this marriage:|
|1||N.N., born c. 2410, follows J-111.|
born c. 2390.
Married c. 2415 N.N.
placing of Petiron's father (or mother) as a brother (or sister) to
Lord Tarathel's grandfather is arbitrary and based on the fact that,
in The Masterharper of Pern, it is stated that Petiron has Telgar Blood and
on the fact that he was
probably born around 2420. I have "created" as many generations
as were necessary to come up with a plausible way to explain
Petiron's Telgar Blood. The explanation I have come up with makes
Petiron a cousin of Lord Tarathel's father. I have chosen not to
have Petiron to come from a lateral line of the Telgar Bloodline
because of a remark about Petiron's Telgar Blood
when Robinton is about to marry Kasia: "Melongel
didn’t [object]. He already knew of the Telgar Blood
connection of Petiron, and the fact that Merelan was a Mastersinger of
Pern–wide prestige made no bar to an espousal" [MHoP].
|Children (known) out of this marriage (correct order unsure):|
|1||Petiron of Telgar/Harper Hall, born probably Telgar Hold c. 2420, follows J-121.|
|2||Forist, probably born Telgar Hold after c. 2420.|
|3||N.N., probably born Telgar Hold after c. 2420.|
|4||N.N., probably born Telgar Hold after c. 2420.|
|5||N.N., probably born Telgar Hold after c. 2420.|
Lord Holder of Telgar Hold, probably born Telgar Hold c. 2410,
probably died before c. 2460.
Married c. 2435 N.N., Lady Holder of Telgar Hold, probably born c. 2415.
|Children (known) out of this marriage:|
|1||Tarathel of Telgar, born probably Telgar Hold c. 2440, follows J-111.1|
|2||Probably several sisters. This is known because of a reference about Thella that mentions "her stepmother, sisters [meant are half-sisters] and aunts". Among these aunts there could also have been sisters of her mother, but since this paragraph is mostly about Telgar Bloodline related matters (and Thella's "rightful" place at the Hold) it is most likely that sisters of Tarathel were meant.|
|Petiron of Telgar/Harper Hall,
born probably Telgar Hold c. 2420, Master Harper (composition), Master
Composer, died Half Circle Sea Hold 1 eleventh-month 2514 (buried at
sea 4 eleventh-month 2514).
Married probably Harper Hall or Fort Hold 2448 Merelan of Pierie Hold/Harper Hall, born Pierie Hold (more precise: Merelan was born at a hold near Pierie Hold which was probably under the jurisdiction of Pierie Hold) c. 2425, Mastersinger, died Harper Hall spring 2476; daughter of Roblyn of Pierie Hold and N.N.
came from Telgar Hold while still a young man, inclined to scholarship
and therefore sponsored into the Harper Hall [MHoP/1:12, 22]. During
his time at the Harper Hall it was said he was the best composer of
the last two centuries [MHoP].
|Child out of this marriage:|
|1||Robinton of Harper Hall, born Harper Hall tenth month 2452, follows J-121.1|
|Tarathel of Telgar, Lord Holder of Telgar Hold, born probably Telgar
Hold c. 2440, died c. 2492.
Married 1st prior to 2476 N.N., died probably Telgar Hold c. 2476 (when giving birth to her only child Thella) [RoP/prologue:16].
Married 2nd prior to 2477 (within about two months after the death of his first spouse) Fira, Lady Holder of Telgar Hold, born c. 2425, died after 2507 (she was still alive and acting as Lady Holder of Telgar Hold in the Turn Thella should have married Derabal).
Had one or more relationships with a number of unknown women.
Tarathel probably had several more daughters beside the ones that are known. In Dragonquest a reference is made to "the women of Telgar", who were present at the wedding of Lord Asgenar of Lemos and Larad's half-sister Famira [D2/10:180]. Although it is certain that Fira is Larad's mother [RoP/prologue:17] it is also certain that Larad and Kylara had other half-sisters than Thella, who was the only child out of Tarathel's first marriage. Therefore Lord Tarathel must have had one or more (extra-marital) relationships, out of which at least some daughters were born, Famira among them. It is not likely that he married a third time since his wife Fira is still alive long after his death.
|Child out of the first marriage:|
|1||Thella of Telgar aka
Holdless, born c. 2476. Was supposed to have married the Telgar
holder Derabal in 2507 but left Telgar Hold instead
Thella was eleven months older than her half-brother Larad and was Lord Tarathel's first born child [RoP/prologue:16]. In The Masterharper of Pern it is said that there was a brief flurry at the confirmation of Larad as Telgar's Lord Holder because she challenged her brother's right to the Hold and insisted that the Conclave had to hear her right to the Holding. She was not admitted to the Conclave and Masterharper Robinton often wondered what happened to her. The reference to her disappearance shortly after Larad's confirmation [MHoP] can not be true since she did not leave the Hold until Larad tried to carry out the arrangement of her marriage to Derabal, which had already been planned and agreed upon by the deceased Lord Tarathel [RoP/prologue:15-17].
|Children out of the second marriage:|
|2||Larad of Telgar, born Telgar Hold c. 2477, eleven months younger than his half-sister Thella, follows J-111.12.|
|3||Kylara, born probably Telgar Hold c. 2480, follows J-111.13.|
|Children (known) out of one or more other relationships of Lord Tarathel:|
|4||Famira of Telgar/Lemos, Lady Holder of Lemos Hold, born probably Telgar
Hold c. 2488.
Married Telgar Hold 12 fourth-month 2515 Asgenar of Lemos, Lord Holder of Lemos Hold, born Lemos Hold c. 2485.
Famira has long blond hair and blue eyes. Asgenar and his brother-in-law Larad both have been fostered at the Hold of Lord Corman of Keroon. Their marriage was ratified by the Conclave of Lord Holders [D2/10:180-181].
probably born Telgar Hold.
Married (probably at Telgar Hold) 2512 Derabal, born Telgar area 2472/2473 (34 Turns old in 2507 [RoP/prologue:15]), a Telgar holder who originally was the intended husband of Thella of Telgar. He was described by Thella as "a niggardly, foul-mouthed, snaggle-toothed, senile old man"; she also remarked that he was "a minor holder, not even a Lord". In relation to this last remark her brother Larad remarks that Derabal "holds an impressive spread from river to mountain" [RoP/prologue:16].
This unnamed "younger half-sister" of Larad is said to be "a rather sweet and certainly biddable girl" [RoP/prologue:17].
of Harper Hall
born Harper Hall tenth month 2452, Journeyman Harper (2467-2477),
Master Harper (2477-2484), Masterharper of Pern (2484-25..), died
Married High Reaches Hold 1 tenth-month 2473 Kasia of Mardela Hold, born Mardela Hold early spring 2449 (2448?), died c. 1 fourth-month 2474; daughter of Bourdon, Holder of Mardela Hold, and Brashia, Lady Holder of Mardela Hold.
Had a relationship with Silvina of Harper Hall, born Harper Hall …., headwoman at Harper Hall, died after 2529; daughter of N.N. (probably a harper) and Lorra, headwoman at Harper Hall.
had (at least) two other relationships which, however, had more the
character of an affair. First with Sitta
of High Reaches Hold, and second (after Kasia's
death) with Laela, a
healer’s assistant in South Boll (eastern coastal area). From the
book The Masterharper of Pern one can deduce that he had many
short-term relationships in later Turns.
|Child out of the relationship with Silvina:|
|1||Camo of Harper Hall, born Harper Hall winter 2487 (retarded).|
|Larad of Telgar
[Lar], Lord Holder of Telgar Hold,
born Telgar Hold c. 2477 (15 Turns old when confirmed as Lord Holder
c. 2492), owner of a green fire lizard [D2/16:312].
Married about mid 2507 Dulsay, Lady Holder of Telgar Hold [RoP/172; dated 12th Turn 9th Pass=2519], died prior to 2524.
Married 2nd Jissamy [AtWoP/160; dated 17th Turn 9th Pass-2524], Lady Holder of Telgar Hold, born c. 2480.
is eleven months younger than his half-sister Thella
[RoP/prologue:16]. At the death of his father (c. 2492, but definitely
prior to 2494) he was confirmed as Lord Holder. He was 15 Turns old at
the time [MHoP].
|Children out of the marriage with Dulsay (known):|
|1||Laradian, born Telgar Hold [AtWoP/346].|
|2||N.N. (son). In The Renegades of Pern A'ton is called Lord Larad's third son [RoP/UK172].|
|3||A’ton, third son of Lord Larad by Dulsay. If he's a dragonrider (weyrling) in 2519 [RoP/UK172], he must be born prior to at least 2507.|
|4||Bonna, probably born Telgar Hold, artist [AtWoP].|
|Kylara, rider of
gold Prideth (impressed 20 third-month 2508), junior weyrwoman at
Benden Weyr, senior Weyrwoman at Southern Weyr and High Reaches Weyr
(the last until the death of her dragon in the infamous "battle of the queens"
between Prideth and Brekke's Wirenth on 13 fourth-month 2515).
Many different relationships, among them relationships with:
T'bor, rider of bronze Orth, wingleader at Benden Weyr and later Weyrleader of Southern Weyr and High Reaches Weyr.
Meron of Nabol, Lord Holder of Nabol Hold (no issue).
was Lord Larad of Telgar's only full-blood sister and thus a Telgar
of the Blood [D2/62]. She had five children, some of them possibly
fathered by T'bor [D2/63, 66, 70]. In Dragonquest
her mother (Lady Fira) is described (by Kylara) as "a woman too early
used and cast aside by Lord Telgar", which can't have been true
though and which will probably have been Kylara's own, biased opinion.
Kylara had "the
amorous tendencies of a green dragon", she was one of the ten
candidates from the same Search (2505) on which Lessa was discovered
|Children (unknown out of which relationships, though it is certain she had no children by Lord Meron):|
|1||T'kil, born Benden Weyr first-month 2508; probably fathered by T'bor. It is typical for the, often obnoxious Kylara to try and give her son the dragonrider's honorific many Turns before the boy would be able to stand on the Hatching Ground. Benden Weyrleader F'lar observed that the name T'lar would have been confusing and says that T'kil "still indicates sire as well as dam" [D1/154-155]. The name is probably pronounced as T'keel (so the second half sounds like the first syllable of his mother’s name).|
Hans van der Boom 1999, 2001